Talk:Mac or Bonds: Who Roided It Up Better?/@comment-12.221.184.174-20060503203010

I honestly think most of you are taking this a bit too far... OUR analysis of what did or did not happen is unimportant. All most of you have accomplished is to bash everyone else&quot;s comments without actually considering them (most are just OPINIONS), and then call them "idiots" and the like. Well played...

I did see one comment that I agreed with though. Whether or not the use of roids is acceptable or not, whether or not baseball is improved or ruined by this, sure, go ahead and debate that, but it&quot;s pointless to debate whether or not they did use the stuff. When proof comes out whether they did or did not knowingly use roids(speaking more on Bonds&quot;s story), then there will be reason to discuss it.

I also am tempted to believe that it IS possible for players to have career years past their "prime." Many of them really don&quot;t fit the description we apply to Bonds and Mac (One example that comes to mind would be Jamie Moyer. He STILL looks older and weaker, but he also won 20 games recently). People DO gain muscle if they apply themselves to it. I&quot;ve seen a friend go from "scrawny and wiry" to "buff" just by joining the military, and the changes were that noticable within about 9 months. If the training regimen is right, I don&quot;t doubt that someone could gain that much legitimate muscle.

As for the better "roider" I&quot;m inclined to say Bonds only because Mac had a more stunning CAREER, rather than a stunning few years. Not many people would go from stealing 40-50 bases to hitting 70 HR&quot;s just because they can. =D

Take it easy!